[R-lang] Re: p-values for mixed effects models with random slopes
Hugo Quené
H.Quene@uu.nl
Tue Jan 18 11:26:51 PST 2011
Dear list,
On 2011.01.18 19:50 , Levy, Roger wrote:
> Just some notes on what everyone else has written<see below>:
> I think that there are a few basic options for the general problem of assessing significance of fixed effects in models with rich random-effects structure:
>
> 1) trust the normal approximation to the t- (and more generally the F-) statistic. My consistent impression is that for models with parameters numbering in the low dozens and observations numbering in the hundreds or thousands, the anti-conservativity is minimal. The examples from Pinheiro& Bates 2000 showing anticonservativity have far fewer observations per parameter.
I share this impression. Just to expand a bit:
In his textbook, Hox (2010, p.46), citing Bryk & Raudenbusch (1992),
mentions the t-test for testing a fixed effect, with df=J-p-1, where
J=number of higher-level units (e.g. subjects or items, whichever
the lowest), and p=total number of parameters in model, fixed and
random combined. Minimum df=1 of course. This is indeed a
conservative approach, but I find it useful for assessing and
reporting large effects.
Hox, J.J. (2010). Multilevel Analysis: Techniques and Applications
(2nd ed.). Mahwah, NJ: Lawrence Erlbaum.
http://www.joophox.net/mlbook2/MLbook.htm
see also Google Books for preview
Best wishes, Hugo
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