[R-lang] lmer for by item and by subject analysis

Tine Mooshammer tine at haskins.yale.edu
Fri May 9 08:16:38 PDT 2008


>
> hi Tine,
>
>> The lmer works well for the simple model:
>> RTE.lmer=lmer(logAc ~ structure + (1|sp) + (1|code2), latrmE)
>
> Could you show us the output of this model?
yes, sure:

Linear mixed-effects model fit by REML
Formula: logAc ~ structure + (1 | sp) + (1 | code2)
   Data: latrmE
  AIC    BIC logLik MLdeviance REMLdeviance
 -489 -459.2  251.5       -524         -503
Random effects:
 Groups   Name        Variance  Std.Dev.
 code2    (Intercept) 0.0069926 0.083622
 sp       (Intercept) 0.0454584 0.213210
 Residual             0.0164155 0.128123
number of obs: 520, groups: code2, 26; sp, 20

Fixed effects:
              Estimate Std. Error t value
(Intercept)    5.64618    0.06193   91.17
structureCV   -0.12430    0.05590   -2.22
structureCVC  -0.09259    0.05039   -1.84
structureCCV  -0.39861    0.05930   -6.72
structureCCVC -0.37137    0.05930   -6.26

Correlation of Fixed Effects:
            (Intr) strcCV strCVC strCCV
structureCV -0.451                    
structurCVC -0.501  0.555             
structurCCV -0.426  0.471  0.523      
structrCCVC -0.426  0.471  0.523  0.444

For model 1+structure|sp
Linear mixed-effects model fit by REML
Formula: logAc ~ structure + (1 + structure | sp) + (1 | code2)
   Data: latrmE
    AIC  BIC logLik MLdeviance REMLdeviance
 -486.3 -397  264.2     -549.4       -528.3
Random effects:
 Groups   Name          Variance  Std.Dev. Corr                       
 code2    (Intercept)   0.0070048 0.083695                            
 sp       (Intercept)   0.0374311 0.193471                            
          structureCV   0.0030771 0.055472 -0.348                     
          structureCVC  0.0100272 0.100136 -0.348  0.812              
          structureCCV  0.0014262 0.037765 -0.298  0.632  0.955       
          structureCCVC 0.0088162 0.093895 -0.298  0.632  0.955  1.000
 Residual               0.0147228 0.121338                            
number of obs: 520, groups: code2, 26; sp, 20

Fixed effects:
              Estimate Std. Error t value
(Intercept)    5.64618    0.05848   96.55
structureCV   -0.12430    0.05701   -2.18
structureCVC  -0.09259    0.05493   -1.69
structureCCV  -0.39861    0.05962   -6.69
structureCCVC -0.37137    0.06264   -5.93

Correlation of Fixed Effects:
            (Intr) strcCV strCVC strCCV
structureCV -0.520                    
structurCVC -0.587  0.566             
structurCCV -0.475  0.475  0.528      
structrCCVC -0.497  0.480  0.580  0.462

>>
>> but I get the following error messages for the more complicated model:
>> RTE.lmerS=lmer(logAc ~ structure + (1+structure|sp) + (1|code2), latrmE)
>> Warning messages:
>> 1: In .local(x, ..., value) :
>> Estimated variance-covariance for factor ‘sp’ is singular
>>
>> 2: In .local(x, ..., value) :
>> nlminb returned message false convergence (8)
>>
>> Does that mean that I don't have to account for different speaker 
>> slopes or is there an error in the specification of the model or 
>> empty cells in the data (I'm not aware of that)?
>
> I'm going to guess that you might have a very small estimated random 
> effect of specific structure by speaker. See below as well.
>
>>
>> Furthermore, a slightly different specification for the model seems 
>> to be
>>
>>  > RTE.lmerS=lmer(logAc ~ structure + (1|sp:structure) + (1|code2), 
>> latrmE)
>
> Note that this really is a different model than the (1 + structure | 
> sp) model.  In the (1 + structure | sp) model, speakers who are slow 
> for one structure will tend to be slow for other structures as well.  
> This is not the case for the (1 | sp:structure) model.
>
>>
>> but then I get the following error messages:
>>
>> Error in sp:structure : NA/NaN argument
>> In addition: Warning messages:
>> 1: In sp:structure :
>> numerical expression has 520 elements: only the first used
>> 2: In sp:structure :
>> numerical expression has 520 elements: only the first used
>> 3: In inherits(x, "factor") : NAs introduced by coercion
>
> What version of lme4 are you using? With the development version (on 
> R-Forge), I am able to produce toy data that all three of your model 
> specifications work reasonably well on (appended at end).
I'm using the current version, 0.99875-9

With your data I still get a warning for logAc.lmer2

Warning message:
In .local(x, ..., value) :
  Estimated variance-covariance for factor ‘sp’ is singular
Does this mean that the variance of struct on sp is so small that it can 
be neglected?
Sorry for stupid questions... And thanks for your quick answer.

Tine
>
> This might also turn out to be a good question for the R-sig-ME list. 
> But you should probably give the development version of lme4 a try, if 
> that's not what you're using already.
>
> Best
>
> Roger
>
> ***
>
> mu <- 6
> nsubj <- 20
> ncodes <- 20
> struct.effect <- c(0,1)
> subj.int <- rnorm(nsubj,0, 1)
> subj.slope <- rnorm(nsubj, 0, 0.05)
> code2.int <- rnorm(ncodes, 0, 1)
> dat <- expand.grid(sp=1:nsubj, code2=1:ncodes)
> dat$struct <- ifelse(dat$code2>(ncodes/2), 2, 1)
> dat <- within(dat, logAc <- mu + struct.effect[struct] + subj.int[sp] 
> + subj.slope[sp]*struct + code2.int[code2] + rnorm(nsubj*ncodes, 0, 1))
> dat
>
> dat$struct <- factor(dat$struct)
> dat$sp <- factor(dat$sp)
> dat$code2 <- factor(dat$code2)
> logAc.lmer1 <- lmer(logAc ~ struct + (1 | sp) + (1 | code2), data=dat, 
> method="ML")
> logAc.lmer2 <- lmer(logAc ~ struct + (1 + struct | sp) + (1 | code2), 
> dat, method="ML")
> logAc.lmer3 <- lmer(logAc ~ struct + (1 | sp:struct) + (1 | code2), 
> dat, method="ML")
>
>
> > logAc.lmer1
> Linear mixed model fit by maximum likelihood
> Formula: logAc ~ struct + (1 | sp) + (1 | code2)
>    Data: dat
>   AIC  BIC logLik deviance REMLdev
>  1292 1312 -640.8     1282    1283
> Random effects:
>  Groups   Name        Variance Std.Dev.
>  sp       (Intercept) 0.60403  0.77720
>  code2    (Intercept) 0.62855  0.79281
>  Residual             1.13088  1.06343
> Number of obs: 400, groups: sp, 20; code2, 20
>
> Fixed effects:
>             Estimate Std. Error t value
> (Intercept)   6.1954     0.3142  19.719
> struct2       0.6435     0.3702   1.739
>
> Correlation of Fixed Effects:
>         (Intr)
> struct2 -0.589
> > logAc.lmer2
> Linear mixed model fit by maximum likelihood
> Formula: logAc ~ struct + (1 + struct | sp) + (1 | code2)
>    Data: dat
>   AIC  BIC logLik deviance REMLdev
>  1295 1323 -640.7     1281    1282
> Random effects:
>  Groups   Name        Variance Std.Dev. Corr
>  sp       (Intercept) 0.636429 0.79776
>           struct2     0.035020 0.18714  -0.272
>  code2    (Intercept) 0.629427 0.79336
>  Residual             1.121574 1.05904
> Number of obs: 400, groups: sp, 20; code2, 20
>
> Fixed effects:
>             Estimate Std. Error t value
> (Intercept)   6.1954     0.3168  19.555
> struct2       0.6435     0.3726   1.727
>
> Correlation of Fixed Effects:
>         (Intr)
> struct2 -0.598
> > logAc.lmer3
> Linear mixed model fit by maximum likelihood
> Formula: logAc ~ struct + (1 | sp:struct) + (1 | code2)
>    Data: dat
>   AIC  BIC logLik deviance REMLdev
>  1313 1333 -651.6     1303    1304
> Random effects:
>  Groups    Name        Variance Std.Dev.
>  sp:struct (Intercept) 0.61738  0.78573
>  code2     (Intercept) 0.63429  0.79643
>  Residual              1.12153  1.05902
> Number of obs: 400, groups: sp:struct, 40; code2, 20
>
> Fixed effects:
>             Estimate Std. Error t value
> (Intercept)   6.1954     0.3161   19.60
> struct2       0.6435     0.4470    1.44
>
> Correlation of Fixed Effects:
>         (Intr)
> struct2 -0.707

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